Introductions

In attendance: Emily, Ken, Dave, Jimmy, Jennifer, Hunter, Carlin, Taylor, Andy, Zeke, Diana, Eric, Mark, Dan, Matthew, Kim

Emily spurred the group into action by asking about our favorite caving verb. As cavers, we trudge, thrutch, walk, wallow, slide, climb, survey, crawl, squeeze, chimney, begrudge, abseil, stem, portage, and meander.

 

Business

  • Do pay your dues! The rate is now reduced to $7.50 (or $11 for families). Dues help pay for the grotto trip and other TriTrog-sponsored activities/items.
  • Upcoming programs: Learn about surveying from Matthew in August. Ask Mike McBride about overnight caving in September. Join the Halloween party in October. Be prepared for a mystery program by Pete in November.
  • Sign up for the grotto trip if you plan to attend. Currently there are about 11 people already signed up. A link to signup has already been circulated and will be emailed out again. The trip will take place at Gilley Cave in Lee County, with camping nearby at Leeman Field RV Park and Campgrounds, which offers showers. Suggestions are welcome for Sunday activities (Ken mentioned biking the VA Creeper Trail)
  • This year the holiday party will be hosted by Kim on December 8th. Bring good cheer, and food.

 

Trip Reports

Carlin, Ken, Dave, and Dawson travelled back to Rail Valley Cave in Smyth County, VA to continue surveying. Of the muddy crawls through Smyth Country, this one was muddier than most. To complement the mud, the deep rumble of the train overhead made it sound as though water was rushing in.

Although most of the leads didn’t go anywhere, one opened up through a fissure into a 40 ft wide, 30 ft high room complete with 20 ft column and other large formations. There was also a larger 30 ft pit but they unfortunately lacked the gear to cross. After surveying the liquor cabinet, the group decided that the cold had finally sunk in, and they will return to survey the rest with proper gear and more help in tow.

Other interesting facets of this trip included some noteworthy bugs, salamanders, and the interesting trek to get to the cave itself. After failing to obtain the key to the gait when the property owner was not at home, they scouted alternate ways of entry that involved crossing the river. Carlin was rather excited to discover that there were resurgences where the river went through the mountain, and sticking his head into one of the voids, he could hear water running though about 15 ft below. What did Carlin do all morning? Look for caves, of course. Eventually they ended up hiking in past the locked gate, but the tree growth would have prevented vehicle access regardless.

The next day brought another survey trip, this time through Staley’s Cave. For reference, this is on the same property as Snocone, but lower in the valley. Tanya came out to help survey the entrance, and in total they logged about 200ft of the L-shaped cave. In additional to the extra footage, they also gained new insight on Carlin (he doesn’t like caterpillars).

Eric and his daughter went to the bat ranch and were joined by Alexa and her daughter. The group explored Tawney’s Cave, starting at the larger entrance that went into the formation room. After getting lost and climbing a lot of mud, they found the semicircular moon room with the stream that flows along the edge. They did make it all the way back to the sinkhole, but missed the connection to the emerald room and instead found a dead cow. The following day brought Lynx Cave and lots of sideways walking and crawling.

Ken and Emily ventured back to Gilley Cave for a cleanup trip. They made excellent progress removing some of the graffiti from the entrance. Afterwards, Emily joined some of the other cavers on the crawl back to Echo Lake. It turned out to be a low, wet 40 ft crawl the ended with some of the younger girls wading into the lake. Upstream, they found some 4 ft hoop formations (Emily’s tape measure came in handy) and walls of gypsum in the dry sections. They encountered one slimy salamander and one E.  lucifuga, but no bats.

 

Upcoming Trips and Activities

  • This weekend: Photo trip to Tawney’s: They group (~8 people) will stay at the bat ranch, driving up Friday and coming back Saturday.
  • July 28 – Aug 4: NSS Convention (MT)
  • Aug 17 – 19: Mark leading beginner trip
  • Aug 25 – 26: Annual TriTrogs Grotto Trip: Gilley Cave, camping in Pennington gap at Leeman Field RV Park and Campgrounds
  • Aug 30 – Sept 3: OTR (WV) Old Timer’s Reunion will run from Thursday at noon to Monday morning. This will include lots of contest, vendors, 1500 people, campfires, some caving trips. Local caves on Saturday get crowded. If you plan on joining, you need to either be a member of The Robertson Association or a guest (ie 2 TRA members vouch for you and send in paperwork).
  • Aug 31 – Sept 3: Cave fest in TN, approximately 9 hrs from here.
  • Sept 15: BugFest/ Peter sent out an email about volunteering as a way to give back to the museum for allowing us to meet there. You get to hold a grasshopper or a praying mantis.
  • Sept 22 – 23: FALL VAR in Blacksburg, va
  • Sept 28 – 30 Fall into the Gorge. Kayaking, caving, rappelling. $20. Run by KY Karst Conservancy
  • Nov 10: Darwin Day

 

Program

Diana took the group through some of the gorgeous caves she has visited.

 

Introductions

In attendance: Emily, Carlin, Eric, Ken, Mark, Peter, Jimmy, Hunter, Dan, Dave

Question: How many machetes do you own? Pete comes in as the clear machete expert (with no less than 6), Dan has 3 (one for each hand), and Emily mysteriously has a half of a machete.

 

Business

  • Pay your dues! Starting in July the price goes down. If you don’t know if you paid, go ahead and pay (… or ask Martin).
  • Upcoming programs include a stint by Diana next month on an unknown but sure-to-be enthralling topic. August promises a surveying extravaganza. Every wonder about how to prepare for an overnight caving trip? Ask Mike McBride in September. Join us for a Halloween party in October where odds are there will be at least one item with a bat on it. In November, Pete will enchant the group with an unknown topic. If there is ever a need, the NSS has webinars that we could resort to for programs, including one about splints for fractures, another about how ropes are made, another about TN caves.
  • BugFest is coming up in mid-September. Help the museum (and Pete!) by volunteering at the Orthoptera table.
  • Kim volunteered to host the holiday party this year.

 

Trip Report (and grotto trip considerations)

Emily, Diana, and Eric went to Gilley’s Cave to scout it out as a possible location for this year’s annual grotto trip. The cave is in Pennington Gap, VA, which is about 5 hours from Raleigh. Gilley’s is owned by the Appalachian Cave Conservancy and has a gate that needs to be unlocked. Unfortunately, it has a lot of graffiti and broken formations, but it also holds beautiful popcorn, crystals, and gypsum.  Lots of waterfalls as well. The cave itself was mostly walking passage, and all crawls (some of which were tight) were voluntary. Further into the cave, there was a lot of breakdown. The cave offers about 4.5 miles of mapped cave to explore.

Gilley’s can probably hold 18-20 people, and Emily is currently looking into an overflow cave option.

Where to camp? Natural Tunnel campground is only 0.5 hr from the cave, but the primitive group campsite (which still has water and a shelter) only holds 12 people. Additional campsites are 0.5 mils away. There is camping in Bristol potentially.

Pete posed the question of potentially returning to the Rass site from the last annual grotto trip and do different caves. This would require getting permission to enter Porter’s again. The larger shelter would come in handy if it rained.

Ken suggested that we will have a sign in sign out list at the cave entrance.

 

Upcoming Trips and Activities

  • June 29 – July 1: Survey trip in Smith county, possibly Rail Valley. (Contact Carlin for information) The railroad tracks are about 30 ft away, you feel it if you are in the cave. Original survey had ~800 ft (not the best quality). There is a blowing lead that goes into darkness and extends into limestone so it has potential. It’s a horizontal trip. Plan to get damp as you go in, have some extra dry layers. Ken found 6 leads the last time, he might not be able to follow unless they are dug out a bit.
  • July 2: Eric may take his daughter up to the bat house and go caving
  • July 7: Gilley cave graffiti cleanup (will try and document the graffiti since some of it is really old, 1800s)
  • July 7: Carlin going to the bat ranch and may go to Smoke Hole. It’s tie dye weekend.
  • Later July: Ken wants to do a photography trip
  • July 28 – Aug 4: NSS Convention (MT)
  • Aug 17 – 19: Mark might do a small Low Moor beginner’s trip
  • Aug 24 – 26: Annual TriTrogs Grotto Trip
  • Aug 30 – Sept 3: OTR (WV)
  • Sept 22 – 23: Fall VAR New River Junction, Blacksburg, VA
  • Sept 22: Bats, beer, and bluegrass hosted by the Southeastern Cave Conservancy. Chickamauga, GA
  • Sept 28 – 30 Fall into the Gorge (KY). Limited space. $20 to attend. Camping, kayaking, rappelling, and cave surveying.
  • Nov 10: Darwin Day at NC Museum of Natural Sciences

 

Program

Kim: Everything you never wanted to know about Cave Salamanders

Introductions

In attendance: Emily, Ken, Nathan, Gillian, Hunter, Dan, Brenda, Eric, Kim, Diana, Peter, Mike B., Carlin, Jimmy

Emily posed the question: If there was a merchant in the depths of a cave and he was selling just one item, what would it be? The almost-unanimous answer was food, from ice cream to a hot bowl of soup, two different kinds of cobblers, cold beer, and to complete the mix, wifi.

 

Business

  • Pay your dues!
  • Eric followed up from the program last month about making caves accessible to all by adding the message: keep an open mind.
  • Another program follow-up: as a reminder, If you agreed to donate to the grotto in exchange , don’t forget. You can donate through PayPal.
  • Upcoming programs include Salamanders, surveying, and overnight trip planning. Eric would appreciate any input for a November program.
  • Spring VAR recap: Great representation from TriTrogs. 279 people registered, with 20 or so TriTrogs among them.
  • NSS Directors Ballots are out. Don’t forget to vote- you can read all about the candidates online.

 

Trip Reports

Ken lead a trip through Hancock cave at VAR. Accompany Ken on the trip was a family of five, including a teenage son with Down’s Syndrome who out-caved both parents. Although he didn’t speak much, they established nonverbal ways of communication.

Emily led a second VAR group (Jimmy, Jennifer, Andy, Kim) through Hancock Cave. The first time cavers in the group happily tackled the mud and explored the highlights of Hancock.

 

SnoCone and Buchanan Saltpeter welcomed VAR-goers Diana, Carlin, and Carlin’s dad. The group also briefly looked into Cold Sink. Although they didn’t venture in, another group found virgin cave in the area before the crawlway to heaven, relatively early in the cave. There was some digging initially, but clear once you access the area. This cave is known to flood, requiring you to move some of the mud that settles. There was a 2nd group in SnoCone that did the tight sections and vertical drop, and Diana and co made it back to the sump. As a tribute to the merit of SnoCone, Mark Hodge mentioned it was the most beautiful cave he has seen in VA.

 

On Friday night at VAR, Hunter and Mike McBride made it to Worley’s cave. The caving continued on Saturday with a trip to cave ridge to explore Dead Air cave with Mark and capture some beautiful pictures.

 

Sam 6 cave was explored by Eric and his daughter. Although not visually interesting, the kids loved it. Another family brought along an 18 month old.

 

Lisa and Mike led a vertical trip to Rollin Creek Cave, accompanied by 5 other people. Tanya thought it would be a through trip, but they didn’t do it as one. After the GPS took them to the wrong house, they crossed a creek with more water than usual and scrambled up a hill to the cave entrance. Inside, they tackled the two 50 foot vertical drops the cave had to offer. No one saw the owl (that was around when surveying), but there was a bird’s nest up on wall. Mike McBride helped Charity since it was her first vertical trip (she did great!). Though the lesson to take home is always that vertical gear will always be more efficient when it’s fitted properly. They did find a blue sheath samari sword but decided to leave it for the next cavers.

 

Pete accompanied the group on the Dead Air trip and explored with Mark while Matthew was taking pictures. There were handlines rigged to allow to navigate some of the muddy slopes. Some mapping activities have been initiated to update the map, though never concluded. When it gets really dry and there is a drought, more passages are revealed.

Also went to Hancock (and got up the slope without using the handline!).

 

In a separate trip (not at VAR), Emily took 10 girl scouts to navigate the passages of Low Moor cave. Additional cavers on the trip included Brenda, Kim, Sarah and her boyfriend, Diana, and Sandy. The trip started off with a setback when a handline Sandy was using snapped, a strong reminder to question any gear left in caves. Mostly unscathed with just a minor injury, she sent the rest of the party on to visit the natural entrance instead of trekking through the mine.

The scouts loved the cave pearls 50 ft or so inside the entrance, as well as the salamander and bat. In true scout form, the girls cleaned a lot of graffiti, mostly in the beautiful mine entrance (surrounded by arches of rock).

 

Upcoming Trips and Activities

  • May 25-28: Speleofest (KY)
  • May 26-27 BCCS 50/60 Butler Cave Conservation Society: 50th anniversary, 60th anniversary of when the cave was discovered
  • Ken: memorial day cave trip? Let him know if anyone wants to go caving. Sport/Photo trip?
  • June 8 – 10 KARST-O-RAMA (KY)
  • June 22-24 OCR (PA)
  • June 22-24 OCR Spring MAR Field Meet (PA) Mar: Mid atlantic region
  • July 28 – Aug 4: NSS Convention (MT)
  • Aug 25-26: Annual TriTrogs Grotto Trip
  • Aug 30 – Sept 3: OTR (WV)
  • Nov 10: Darwin Day: At Museum.

Fall VAR: end of Sept, VPI is hosting it

Carlin: Survey trip in June. Haven’t set a date. Perkins, or may go look for new caves.

 

Program

Chris Atchison: International Association for Geoscience Diversity

Introductions

In attendance: Mark Daughtridge, Mike McBride, Martin, Mark DeWitt, Mike Broome, Matthew W., Zeke, Hunter, Kim, Dan, Diana, Ken, Peter, Kevin, Carlin, Dave, Devon

 

Emily posed the question: What is the oldest piece of caving gear that you own?

Among the group (and discounting Kevin’s claim to his son Carlin being the oldest cave tag-a-long), there were several pieces of gear that date back to latter half of the 20th century. These include Pete’s battery pack from the ‘70s, and Dan’s goldline braided climbing rope from the ‘50s.

 

 

Business

  • Spring VAR: (Virginia Area Regional)
  • Location: Lutheran camp adjacent to Hungry Mother State Park
  • Look for the banner that Ken will bring up
  • Ken is leaving the Raleigh area around 11 or 12pm, Mike M will also arrive early
  • Registration starts at 2pm
  • Possible cave trips may include Perkins, Buchanan Saltpeter, Hancock, etc
  • Friday evening there is a speaker (talking about geology)
  • Breakfast is only on Sunday, not Saturday and Sunday as previously mentioned
  • Pay your DUES! $15 online or give money to an officer
  • Carlin has paid the web posting until next April
  • How old are the TriTrog loaner helmets? Petzl says there is a 10 year expiration date, and three of the four TriTrog loaner helmets are over 10 years (they existed already before Mike B joined in 2003). The fourth was donated by Mike B.
  • Mark still has a helmet from the Rass field station, and may try to return it at VAR.

 

Trip Reports

 

Ken: The annual Grand Caverns cleanup was a success. The majority of the day was spent hauling gravel, allowing the pool that people were slipping into to be filled in. On Sunday, there was a geology talk for those who were interested. The date for next year has been set for April 6th.

 

Emily and Kim attended the OCR training class at Chimney Rock State Park. This class provided hands-on training for what procedures to follow in order to rescue someone from a cave. The focus of the course was securing the patient into a litter and transporting through a cave. The powerpoints of Friday night and Saturday morning were followed by an obstacle course where you practiced carrying a person on a litter. Of the 20+ people who attended, more than half were cavers and the remainder were firefighters/EMS. Mock rescue in the cave was cancelled due to the weather, but they may offer a future mock make up date.

 

Upcoming Trips and Activities

  • April 27-29: Spring VAR
  • May 3-6: SERA Cave Carnival (Scottsboro, AL)
  • May 11-13: GirlScout Trip
  • May 25-28: Speleofest (KY)
  • June 8 – 10 KARST-O-RAMA (KY)
  • June 22-24 OCR (PA)
  • July 28 – Aug 4: NSS Convention (MT)
  • Aug 25-26: Annual triTrogs Grotto Trip
  • Aug 30 – Sept 3: OTR (WV)
  • Nov 10: Darwin Day: At Museum.

Ken might go somewhere for memorial day weekend.

Dave might do a survey trip at some point.

 

Program

Much gear was traded and bartered at the Gear Swap, that was held before the business portion of the meeting for ease of setup.

Introductions

In attendance: Emily, Eric, Hunter, Mike B, Mike M, Carlin, Julie, Kyrie, Kim, Matthew, Ken, Diana, Peter, Mark

Emily successfully established that cavers should never bestow their children with cave-related names, as poor Rocky, Whirley, and (yes….) Death Pit may face life-altering challenges. Mica might have hope, though.

 

Business

  • Next month: The program will be the gear swap. There is a signup sheet posted online. We will start with this first (before the business meeting) so that friends and family can join. Invite all!
  • Spring VAR: (Virginia Area Regional) early registration still open until April 30th.
  • Gather of cavers that camp out on Friday and Saturday night and go caving.
  • Camping at Hungry Mother Lutheran Camp (open field, no individual fire pits so bring a camp stove if you want to cook!)
  • Group dinner will be provided on Saturday night, and continental breakfast on both days. Meals are included in registration if you preregister.
  • There is a great guidebook available this year.
  • Two vendors will be in attendance if you are interested in purchasing and additional caving gear.
  • Most of the caving is generally on Saturday (there is a meeting that happens on Sunday, but you are welcome to cave on the way home).
  • Mike has flag and canopy (when you get there, look for orange flag and NC license plates)
  • Usually about 200 in attendance
  • Orientation to Cave Rescue. April 13-15: NCRC OCR: Chimney Rock
  • Annual grotto trip: Maybe Gilly’s?
  • Pay your DUES! $15 online or give money to an officer

 

Trip Reports

  • Mike M. travelled south to attend the FL Cave Cavort hosted by the tampa grotto. First stop was Lance’s Cave, where there was some necessary floor and ceiling digging to cement it’s claim as a cave. Next on the list was Ocala Caverns, complete with a rich history that includes joints as a commercial cave and a training facility. After an interesting search for the entrance, they discovered the cleverly concealed 30 ft pit entrance. After exploring some additional smaller limey Florida caves (some with fledgling vultures in the entrance), they found themselves in another previous commercial cave that with concrete steps to a 60ft by 200ft room that housed crystal blue water. One long crawl and steep ladder across a crack later, Mike discovered dozens of bats roosting in the entrance to the lake room. The lake itself was about 12ft by 16ft, and at 8 ft deep one can easy cannonball into it. An exploration of Dame’s cave and Peace Cave completed the trip, though these two smaller caves (<400ft) were well populated with locals.
  • Lisa and Mike B. ventured out to Hawaii and discovered the draw of lavatube Unlike solution caves, the formations within lavatube caves are from the liquid rock itself that has cooled into shapes. The ceiling is adorned with roots since you are never far from the surface. They entered through a ceiling collapse and continued along the horizontal routes with a downhill trend, with some side passages into the inner sections.The cave was a balmy 65°F, similar to the outside temperature, and was situated on the southern tip of the island in a community with about 6 cavers. At 65°F, the cave was too warm for the bats to be affected by WNS.
  • Lisa and Mike also attended a small party rescue training in Burnsville, VA, with classroom exercises on Saturday and Sunday they focused on rope work for vertical rescue with pulleys and hall systems. Originally it would have been in a cave, but the 6-8 inches of snow meant they practiced their rope work in a two story-garage.
  • Ken, Dave, Emily, and Jason successfully surveyed Dutton’s Cave along Cave Ridge. The scrambled down into one room with three pits on three different sides of the room. Using a cable ladder to drop down to the lower level, they came across the main room adorned with lots of fins. There was a pool at the base (which was about 4 ft lower than the previous scouting trip) and alongside were some stones that had been pulled there to form a kind of platform. By the end of the trip they logged 32 stations.
  • The group continued to Radon Cave, where Ken learned he couldn’t quite squeeze through the initial crawlway. Leaving Ken to dig out the initial crawl, the rest continued and Dave rigged a cable ladder that led to an area at the top where there was barely enough room to take your harness off. After another pinch, it opened into a long room with a ceiling of about 75 ft. Animal life included one bat, one groundhog, and the remains of something else. Nothing looked promising for other leads from the larger room.

 

Upcoming Trips and Activities

  • April 13-15: NCRD OCR: Orientation to Cave Rescue (Open to beginners)
  • April 21: Grand Caverns Clean Up Ken will be helping out. Oldest commercial caverns in the US. Sunday: offering tours with a USGS geologist at 10 and 1 pm. Cavers get to join for free. Contact Ken if interested. Might be cleaning off algae, putting formations back together.
  • April 27-29: Spring VAR
  • May 3-6: SERA Cave Carnival (Scottsboro, AL) It’s a TAG event
  • May 11-13: GirlScout Trip to Lowmoor Emily’s nieces girl scout trip Ken, Diana, Kim
  • May 25-28: Speleofest (KY)
  • July 28 – Aug 4: NSS Convention (MT)
  • Aug 25-26: Annual Grotto Trip
  • Nov 10: Darwin Day: At Museum.

 

Program

Emily hosted a wonderful game of Speleo Bingo.

Introductions

(with thanks to Zeke for transcribing the minutes)

In attendance: Mike Broome, Eric Williams, Zeke Van Fossen, Matthew Weiss, Martin Groenewegen, Hunter, Michael McBride, Bryan, Ken Walsh, Mark DeWitt, Brad, Pete Hertl, and Emily​ Graham

Emily started the meeting with the question: what technological advancements are you looking forward to in caving?

 

Business

  • There was an officers’ meeting. An online grotto member list is forthcoming and Eric is working on it.
  • We’re having a gear swap at the April meeting. See your email for a list of the items. Caving and outdoor gear are the only items permitted.
  • Registration is open for Spring VAR. TriTrogs should plan to go because we are a considerably larger group than the host grotto, and they may need our help.
  • There is a cave rescue orientation April 13 through 15. The grotto will help pay for people who would like to attend.
  • The annual grotto trip will be August 25-26. Further details are yet to be determined.
  • We still need programs for this year’s meetings. Eric is the contact for programs.

 

Trip Reports

  • Matthew, Emily, Ken, and Kim went to survey Lowmoor Mine & Cave in Virginia. Ken and Matthew and only went in about 15 ft and surveyed the mine above, but Emily and Kim went farther in to push leads. Matthew spotted three bats and would like to return. Five teams of three people surveyed ~3000′. Emily added that some television was filmed there. A caver had been paid to cover some graffiti with mud and covered some survey stations
  • Mike Broome went to the Butler Cave project weekend two weeks prior. It was a wet weekend. They did some digging and found some more survey stations. When they came out of the cave, two inches of snow had fallen.
  • Pete went to the Bone-Norman Cave System that same weekend. He reported that there was a lot of water in the cave, but not as much as other times.
  • Brian talked about expedition caving and told a story about Lechuguilla Cave. One person in one group was far too slow, and the entire groups were compelled to turn around and go back out as a result. He added that expedition groups are looking for good people with different skills.

 

Upcoming Trips and Activities

  • April 13-15: NCRD OCR: Orientation to Cave Rescue (Open to beginners)
  • April 21: Grand Caverns Clean Up Ken will be helping out. Oldest commercial caverns in the US. Sunday: offereing tours with a USGS geologist at 10 and 1 pm. Cavers get to join for free. Contact Ken if interested. Might be cleaning off algae, putting formations back together.
  • March 16 – 18: Michael is attenting FL Cave Cavort
  • April 13 – 15: NCRC OCR at Chimney Rock State Park
  • April 21: Grand Caverns Clean Up (Grottoes, VA)
  • April 27-29: Spring VAR at Hungry Mother State Park (Marion, VA)
  • May 3-6: SERA Cave Carnival (Scottsboro, AL)
  • May 11-13: GirlScout Trip to Lowmoor Emily’s nieces girl scout trip Ken, Diana, Kim
  • May 12-19: NCRC Training Seminar (Mentone, AL)
  • May 25-28: Speleofest (KY)
  • July 28 – Aug 4: NSS Convention (MT)
  • Aug 25-26: Annual Grotto Trip

Program

​A short break was taken, and then Eric led a program on knot tying to close out the evening.​

In Attendance: Emily, Eric, Carlin, Martin, Kim

We discussed possible program topics for the year, including:

  • Knots
  • An intro to surveying
  • A night of gear trading
  • Salamanders
  • TBD creation by Pete
  • Convention summary
  • Halloween party
  • Cave gear comparison
  • First aid kits
  • Fossils
  • Possibly something by the International Association for Geoscience Diversity?

Membership list: Is there a need to have a membership form? It would include each TrigTrogs member’s address, what type of caving you are interested in, and experience thus far. Further, it may be possible to setup a google drive to document names and phone numbers to ensure security of the information and make trip planning easier.

Gear Sale: Kim will create a signup list to send out for the gear swap, which will be the April program

PayPal: Ideally, we would like to add a family dues option to the website. Also, this year’s website fees will be paid out of the PayPal account. Mark Little’s name will also eventually be removed.

A date for the grotto trip was established: August 24th – 26th

Martin will prepare a financial report to document expenses throughout the year

A discussion was started about the possibility of a scholarship to the Orientation to Cave Rescue class for non-officers.

The yearly NSS report has yet to be submitted to do to a lack of a response from Paul Winter. Emily will submit this year and Kim will submit in 2019.

Introductions

What would you do if you won the lottery? I think we all now agree that we would help Michael realize his lifelong dream of swimming through a silo full of coins.

In attendance: Ken, Zeke, Matthew W., Kim, Martin, Carlin, Ben, Brian, Michael M., Emily, Peter, Jenny, Eric, and Mark D.

Business

  • Happy new year! Pay your membership dues. Yearly individual: $15. Yearly family: $22. Pay one of the officers or via PayPal. If you pay via PayPal, please email the treasurer to let him know that you did.
  • Ken read a postcard from Amar and Bithika and young caver Pahi. Awwww.
  • Spring VAR event. April 27-29. Put it on your calendars and prepare to invent an excuse for why you can’t volunteer to help out!
  • Several members with finite storage space have expressed interest in a grotto auction or gear swap fundraiser. Kim has offered to start an online list of items that people might like to be rid of. Items should be limited to caving or outdoor gear. Date and location are still under consideration.

Trip Reports

  • Rappel in, walk out. Peter and Mark enjoyed rappelling into Lost World Caverns in Greenbrier County through the original, natural entrance drop and following the walking tour path out. The next day they went to the SSS (???) entrance of the Culverson Creek Cave system. It’s a low, stream crawl entrance, but it opens up into some large passage. They found some stuff to photograph and agreed that it would be worth going back there sometime. They did not navigate any passages that were very tight or very wet.
  • Rappel in, woodchuck out. Brian saved an enormous, lethargic woodchuck from the bottom of the entrance to Flower Pot Cave. [I can’t do this justice, so if you’re reading this and you missed the telling, track him down—Brian, not the woodchuck—and get him to repeat it.]
  • Giggle and bear it. Kim, Eric, Mark, and Ken went back to Paxton’s Cave for day one of the New Year’s weekend. The entrance was a cascade of giant icicles, and the air blowing from the cave felt relatively warm. They made it to the Throne Room in record time and spent the rest of the trip looking for the way to the Christmas Room. They didn’t reach that destination, but the rimstone pool filled with crystal candy corns that they found was the neatest thing Kim has seen in a cave. On day two, while looking for the entrance to Low Moor Cave, Eric discovered a black bear. Eric’s high-pitched scream and subsequent giggle unnerved the bear enough to do the trick, and it promptly left. Once inside, they did a lot of walking, saw a lot of graffiti, crossed a sketchy ladder over a pit, and got Eric stuck in an unnecessary, tight climb.
  • Crash course in frog. Dave and Carlin roped virgin surveyors Natalie and Andy into the Radon Cave survey trip. Carlin bolted a traverse and found that he could remove the former (20-year-old) bolts easily by hand. They descended a short drop and surveyed maybe 100 feet. There was a pinch that Andy wouldn’t fit through, but beyond it the others discovered the large room that they had been promised. No obvious leads off the big room, but it still needs to be surveyed.
  • Michael went to a much-visited, graffiti-riddled small cave behind a waterfall in South Carolina. Also, he definitely did not trespass in a [redacted] on [deleted] property in [omitted].
  • Peter startled a sea lion while cave snorkeling in Mexico.
  • Ben and his wife toured some caves in Vietnam. They spent much of one day hiking to and from a cave with an enormous entrance.

Upcoming Trips and Events

  • Feb. 24 – Low Moor Cave survey trip (contact Ken)
  • Mar. 16-18 – Florida Cave Cavort
  • Mar. 16-18 – Chattanooga area survey trip (contact Brian, vertical required)
  • Apr. 21 – Grand Caverns spring cleaning (VA)
  • Apr. 27-29 – Spring VAR at Hungry Mother State Park (VA)
  • May 3-6 – SERA Cave Carnival (AL)
  • May 12-19 – NCRC cave rescue training seminar (AL)
  • May 25-28 – Speleofest (KY)
  • July 28-Aug. 4 – NSS Convention (MT)
  • Matthew W. wants to lead a photo trip in Tennessee on some 3-day weekend.
  • Ken will lead a photo trip closer to home if there’s interest.

Elections

Officer elections took the place of a meeting program. The 2018 officers are:

  • Chair: Emily Graham
  • Vice-chair: Eric Williams
  • Webmaster: Carlin Kartchner
  • Secretary: Kim Parks
  • Treasurer: Martin Groenewegen

 

Introductions

In attendance: Pete, Mark “The Chalk”, Ken, Michael, Carlin, Emily, Natalie, Mike, Dave, Zeke, and Mark “The Talk”

Business

  • Peter’s trip report from the annual grotto trip was submitted to RASS; some day the rest of us might get to read it.
  • We received a certificate for buying an engraved brick as a donation to the NSS headquarters.
  • We’re throwing a grotto holiday party. There might be a slack line and an accordion, but people should come anyway. Someone will resend the signup email.
  • Zeke is now NSS member #68716! Congratulations, Zeke!

Trip Reports

  • Almost caving: Michael’s girlfriend recommended Bowden Cave, having been there many years ago. They got there to discover it’s been closed.
  • Almost connecting: Mike participated in a dig in the Complaint section in Butler Cave, hauling rock out of a narrow canyon passage. They were puzzled when Mike found a survey station marked F5 in a pit beyond the squeeze; it failed to match the location of the F5 in the old records. As it turns out, a few years’ worth of metric surveying needs to be converted. On the bright side, correcting the old numbers will lengthen the cave.
  • Almost fitting: Michael’s first visit to Hancock Cave exceeded his expectations. He got to see a lot of the cave but was forced to surrender to the Funnel Tunnel. He settled for photographing fossils and a long-dead bat while listening to the gleeful cries that emerged from the other side of the belly crawl. After watching others tackle the awkwardness of the Comic Book Hole, Michael chose to forego that experience in favor of his role as videographer. He’d like to go back and bounce around in the Breakdown Staircase area.
  • Almost memorable: Natalie couldn’t recall as many details about her group’s visit to Hancock Cave, but she does remember spotting two live bats, which is great since we call it the Hancock Cave bat count and graffiti cleanup. Speaking of graffiti, she discovered that boot soles excel at carrying extra mud that can be used to mask etched signatures. So does Ken’s face. Although she found the Funnel Tunnel exciting, the Breakdown Staircase was Natalie’s favorite part of the trip. Read Ken’s trip report here.
  • Almost comfortable: Mark’s group also approached the Funnel Tunnel in Hancock Cave. After some cajoling, even the most nervous new caver made it through and they were all rewarded by the pretty decorations beyond.
  • Almost surveying: A group returned to SnoCone Cave with five 4-foot segments of scaling pole and good intentions of surveying beyond a long wet crawl. A hundred feet from the entrance they took the opportunity to check out a high lead above some flowstone. After assembling three of the sections, Mark climbed to the top but still couldn’t reach his target. The scaling pole then bent and quickly deposited Mark on top of Carlin who, having drawn the short straw, was minding the bottom of the pole. No one was injured, but the survey couldn’t go on. At that point they left the cave and did some ridge walking which, even in hunting season, seemed safer than scaling poles.
  • The day after the SnoCone adventure, the group surveyed about 300 feet in Radon Cave. The entrance feature is a blowing, very tight crawl. There’s another 100 feet or so to survey before a traverse and then the back section of the cave reportedly opens up. Some existing rigging, likely from 1990, clearly needs to be replaced. Carlin retrieved the cave registry which was last used in 1995.

Upcoming Trips and Activities

  • Dec. 5 – NSS CaveNet webinar about ropes
  • Dec. 9 – grotto holiday party
  • Dec. 30-31 – Old Year’s caving trip (Ken)
  • Jan. 20 – Smyth County survey (Dave)
  • Apr. 21 – Grand Caverns restoration
  • Apr. 27-29 – Spring VAR at Hungry Mother State Park

Program

Peter gave a fascinating presentation about cave biology!

Introductions

Mark led us off with a discussion about the benefits of being an NSS member. In attendance were: Mark (61461), Martin (63470), Zeke (n/a), Kim (new!), Diana (29990), Mike B. (54738), Natalie (n/a), Lisa (54739), Russell (n/a), Mike M. (65541), Ken (27597), Emily (26175), Eric (68186), and Carlin (60593).

Business

  • Dues. Pay them if you haven’t.
  • Holiday party. Dec. 9 at 6:30 pm at Mark’s house. Kim has emailed out a link for food/beverage sign-up. If you have an aversion to sign-up sheets, just bring a dessert! There will be awards and (family-friendly) entertainment of some sort.
  • Ken brought along a sign that can be re-purposed by the grotto for placement outside the museum on meeting nights. It’s not blinking neon or anything, but it is big and collapsible. Natalie volunteered to try to paint something appropriate on it.

Trip Reports

  • Carlin and Diana went to Watoga State Park and met up with some Quebeckers who were well-equipped with food. On Saturday they went to Friar’s Hole via the FH entrance. A camera was lost and, after some extra crawling, found again. On Sunday they went to Norman Cave. The area was extremely dry.
  • Mike and Lisa went to the BCCS annual meeting. While there they delved into the historic section of Butler Cave, did the sketchy God Is My Copilot climb, and made it to the foot of the old historic entrance. That area of the cave is not accessible from mid-October to April because of bats.
  • Michael M. went to TAG Fall Cave In. He took some younger cavers to a few suitable caves (Bible Springs, Mountain Cove Farm #1) on Thursday, thought twice about Neversink and chose a different pit. Friday he visited War Eagle Cave with a different group. Saturday he got past the Sometime Sump in Ulla Cave despite some light rain. Ulla has a lot going for it, including some of the most decorated passage he’s ever seen and rooms big enough for a helicopter to fly through them. He left TAG before the bonfire and, more importantly, the incoming tropical storm.
  • Ken wanted to try out his new camera equipment, so he and Diana, Emily, Ava M., and Pete went to Smokehole Cave. It was a fun trip with a lot of photography, and his new lens did really well. Read his trip report and see photos here.

Upcoming Trips and Activities

  • Nov. 4 – Perkins Cave survey
  • Nov. 11 – Hancock Cave bat count
  • Nov. 18 – SnoCone survey trip
  • Dec. 9 – Holiday party
  • Feb ? – Frick’s Cave in TAG region
  • Apr. 21 – Grand Caverns restoration
  • Apr. 27-29 – Spring VAR at Hungry Mother State Park

Program

Ken talked about several caves in the Virginias that are owned and managed by groups of cavers.